“I’ll tell you, as an advocate, my position has shifted over time… I now believe we need… court monitors to come in and watch… When the public sees what might happen in a proceeding, I think they’d be shocked, because if it was their child experiencing this, if it was their voice as the mother being silenced and told, ‘You don’t know what you’re doing. We know better what’s needed for your kiddo.’ I think they’d be deeply disturbed.”

Mae's Story

Mae Quinn is the director of the MacArthur Justice Center in St. Louis. In her interview, she talks about the state of juvenile justice in Missouri, the goals of the MacArthur Justice Center and their work with juveniles, and the bigger picture of the state of juvenile justice in America.

“For a long time this idea of working up therapeutic options, figuring out what the treatment modalities might be, it was just sort of brushed off as social work. No one should be denigrating social work; it’s deeply, deeply important in both adult and juvenile systems, but it is fundamental to doing a good job for kids.”

Read full interview transcript.